tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post8671313685144009920..comments2023-05-26T01:08:22.886-07:00Comments on The Religion Virus: Refuting the Atheist Professor vs the Christian StudentCraig A. Jameshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10569974341270668010noreply@blogger.comBlogger271125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-51156063039520625842013-10-21T06:39:43.851-07:002013-10-21T06:39:43.851-07:00Hi,
I'm a Muslim and would like to give my p...Hi, <br /><br />I'm a Muslim and would like to give my perspective on some of the professors questions to the student.<br />1) No God can't be seen, smelt, touched etc however God attributed to us intelligence and for this reason we were beings above Jinn and even Angels; it's a shame that this intelligence given to us by God to find Him some are using to fight Him. But God does not need you or us; it is we who need God. <br /><br />2) In Islam God is a being beyond our comprehension, if you can think of a God then that is not God for God is completely unique. He does not live in the same space time continium, he doesn't rest etc there just is no Modal to describe God. He communicates to Massengers and Prophets Such as Mohammad, Jesus, Moses, Ibrahim, Noah, Adam (Peace be upon them all) if He wills and it is these chosen individuals who pass the message on to us. God gave us free will to decide and seeing God would force us to submition out of awe for His Greatness as He is the Greatest, <br /><br />3) God is the most just and He is The Creator of all things even the evil which He despises and advocates us not to do however this is a concequence of free will. Not Gods will; rather he facilitates his creatures choices even though He Hates what they do. Our God is the Most Merciful and Compassionate but His Wrath is also unmatched as He will punish those who transgress. Do not let your emotions sway you from The Truth, life is short, it's not full of bowls of roses, it's a test. Do not let satan/Iblis and his ilk have the last laugh as he loves to see the demise of mankind.<br /><br />There is only One God; He wasn't given birth to nor does He give birth, He is completely unique; an eternal and Absolute being. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18252200146955725954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-8853088688968441802013-10-19T09:21:45.761-07:002013-10-19T09:21:45.761-07:00Dr. Olive,
I find it ironic that you quote 1 Cori...Dr. Olive,<br /><br />I find it ironic that you quote 1 Corinthians, "A smart man does not boast," and then cite all of your medical degrees and other diplomas and certificates, as if to prove you are more qualified than me on the topic of religion.<br /><br />First, physicians are not scientists. They are trained to heal, not to do science. None of your technical degrees are relevant to your expertise or lack thereof about religion or science. If you'd read my other blogs, you'd know that I don't put much stock in theology degrees; they teach you history and critical textual analysis. But as to truth, theology schools only reinforce beliefs in ancient myths.<br /><br />You are very presumptuous, aren't you? Practicing medicine while I was in diapers? No.<br /><br />You claim to be a man educated in science. Sadly, in your later years you've forgotten everything that made modern medicine possible. You've lost your commitment to reason and logic, and forgotten all of the magnificent advances that science made for the medical profession.<br /><br />If you're 84 years old, then there's a high probability you'd be dead today if not for the brilliant discoveries by scientists and medical researchers over the last five hundred years. NOT ONE medical advance has been made by religion. So you can thank science that you're alive to argue with me today.<br /><br />As to your religious claims, they're all refuted elsewhere on the internet and in my own writings, so I won't repeat them here.<br /><br />I have a lot of respect and tolerance for those who still believe in the supernatural. But when a man educated in science reverts to superstition and belief in myths written by ignorant farmers two thousand years ago, I have no interest.Craig A. Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10569974341270668010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-66169856405018475532013-10-18T03:06:44.986-07:002013-10-18T03:06:44.986-07:003) I worked in Hospice medicine for one year. The...3) I worked in Hospice medicine for one year. The patient without a faith in God had more "terminal restlessness" compared to those with a faith. When you look in to their eyes as they took their last breath, you can see that thry were looking into something in a distance. Some patients had a fearful look and some patients had a happy look. Why?<br />4) In my 45-year career in medicine, I have seen things happened that I can not explained through science, ie there is no chemical pathway to explain the outcome.<br />a) A patient had so much pain that I could do nothing about, and already on several strong painkillers. Out of desperation I prayed for her (she is an atheist). That patient had not patient when she left my room, and for the next 2 months.<br />b) A patient with biopsied-proven prostate cancer was healed by the power or prayer.<br />c) A man with mental illness (pyschosis) was healed through prayer<br />You may think that the body most likely healed the patients' illnesses. But, these chronic conditions. How can some one find a chemical pathway to defines these miracles.<br />5) When I was in Cambodia, I saw a psychotic man being brought to the village witch-doctor. The psychotic man was speaking gibberish. However, the witch doctor could understand it and he said that the demon in the man was speaking to him. The witch doctor drove the demon out of the man in five minutes in front of my eyes. The affected man was sane again. Can you please explained to me the chemical pathway for this?<br />I could not sleep for the next week. Is there is an existence of evil forces, there must be the opposite, the existence of good forces, ie God.<br />The practice of the "occult" is very prominence in Cambodia, such that when a person becomes psychotic, they would take them to the witch doctor, the witch doctor would drive these demons out. Who are these demons?<br />My dear Mr James, I don't know how old you are. But like you, I used to depend on my knowledge, my textbooks, my equations, chemical reaction, drugs and medications. But, I saw limitations of the each of this. It can not be used to define God or proof the existence of God. Mr James! God is not finite for you to describe him in an equation.<br />As for the evolution theory, for evolution to design a man is likened to taking all the parts from a Boeing 747, put it on the ground, and having a gush of wind blowing all the parts togther to form the plane again.<br />Dear Mr James, I was practicing medicine when you were in daipers. My only hope for you is that you don't trust man made things such as textbooks, enclopedias, technologies and your ego (brain). You need to think with your heart. For forty years, I was like you. But know I am liberated from all of these things, but the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ.<br />Also, Mr James, a smart man does not boast. A smart man does not spray his knowledge. A smart man listen to advices, and a smart man does not put any other man down.<br />1 Corinthians 13:4-8<br />New International Version (NIV)<br /><br />4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.<br /><br />Mr James, here is my credentials. Please can I have yours as well?<br />Dr Olive<br />Bachelor of Medical Science<br />Bachelor of Medicine<br />Dipoloma of Child Health<br />Diploma dermatology<br />Designated Aviation Medical Examiner<br />Australian Institute of Company Director<br />Master of Business Administration<br />Certificate in Electronics<br />Fellow Royal Austalian College of General Practitioner<br />Diploma in theology<br /><br />I will pray for you Mr James.<br />OliveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-4944566618301158082013-10-18T03:05:43.826-07:002013-10-18T03:05:43.826-07:00Dear Mr Craig James,
My name is Olive and I am 80 ...Dear Mr Craig James,<br />My name is Olive and I am 80 years of age. I have read this Blog from top to bottom and enjoyed the discussion. What I am going to share with you may have an impact on your life.<br />For 40 years of my life I worshiped science, knowledge and logic. I pursued knowledge in medicine (I am a retired Family Physician), astronomy, physics (I have read books on quantum mechanics, higher dimensional space),geology (I have collected more rocks than any another doctors I know) electronics, computer networkings etc. Still, I still felt that my life was empty then, until I found God about 20 years ago.<br />Mr James, life is wihout purpose without God in out life. Our sole existence is to enjoy God and live our lives to glorify Him.<br />You and you colleagues wants evidence(s) for the existence of God, like the evidences available to support science. Yes, my medical career, I had to practice "evidence-based" medicine as well. Well, I will give you the evidence based on what I experience in my life. This is my "Darwin: Origin of Species":<br />1) Every culture on this planet seem to have a desire to worhsip a higher being. Does that mean their is a "virus" in all of them to make them yearn for that higher being. Or, are we made with a "homing device" to return back to our maker?<br />2) You don't tend to see the evidence for the existence of God in developed nations. But in developing countries, where I had done a lot of humanitarian missions, I saw that God was present. In our affluent world, we are self sufficient, we replace God with ourselves. I am more aware of God when there is suffering; when there is pain; and when there is poverty.<br />3) I worked in Hospice medicine for one year. The patient without a faith in God had more "terminal restlessness" compared to those with a faith. When you look in to their eyes as they took their last breath, you can see that thry were looking into something in a distance. Some patients had a fearful look and some patients had a happy look. Why?<br />4) In my 45-year career in medicine, I have seen things happened that I can not explained through science, ie there is no chemical pathway to explain the outcome.<br />a) A patient had so much pain that I could do nothing about, and already on several strong painkillers. Out of desperation I prayed for her (she is an atheist). That patient had not patient when she left my room, and for the next 2 months.<br />b) A patient with biopsied-proven prostate cancer was healed by the power or prayer.<br />c) A man with mental illness (pyschosis) was healed through prayer<br />You may think that the body most likely healed the patients' illnesses. But, these chronic conditions. How can some one find a chemical pathway to defines these miracles.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-9893346417227437582013-09-23T07:46:53.249-07:002013-09-23T07:46:53.249-07:00Einstein didn't rule out Thor or Zeus or the F...Einstein didn't rule out Thor or Zeus or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, either. You can't prove a negative, and scientists don't bother trying. You're trying to imply that Einstein was an agnostic. He was actually what we now call an agnostic atheist: a proper scientist who doesn't believe in God, but would never claim we can prove gods don't exist. When you phrase that as "Einstein never ruled out the possibility...", you're trying to imply that Einstein thought there might be a God. That's wrong.Craig A. Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10569974341270668010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-13954858882493029952013-09-23T05:55:52.011-07:002013-09-23T05:55:52.011-07:00Einstein never completely ruled out the possibilit...Einstein never completely ruled out the possibility of a creator! Atheists have no clue how the cosmos got started, they are just always sure to rule out God!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-86607874247511272042013-09-09T15:40:07.979-07:002013-09-09T15:40:07.979-07:00So your "god" needs you to act as a spin...So your "god" needs you to act as a spin doctor?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-12510258366791052942013-09-06T20:22:57.530-07:002013-09-06T20:22:57.530-07:00Imagine someone dragged you to a badminton tournam...Imagine someone dragged you to a badminton tournament against your will and forced you to watch, day after day, week after week, year after year, and to be surrounded by badminton fans who injected badminton references into every conversation, and believed badminton was the only real game in the world ... and then criticized you by saying, "You sure seem concerned about badminton ... the fact that you hate it so much is telling." You'd be justified if you scoffed at the question.Craig A. Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10569974341270668010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-77645168461010399162013-09-05T23:26:21.249-07:002013-09-05T23:26:21.249-07:00A lot of atheists spend a lot of time talking abou...A lot of atheists spend a lot of time talking about God. <br /><br />I don't play badminton. I don't watch badminton. Guess what? I rarely think twice about badminton. Since I am not interested in badminton, I have probably had about two or three conversations about badminton in my whole life. However, if badminton comes up in conversation I listen to why that person likes it. I might tell them it's not that great or not for me but that's as aggressive as I need to get.<br /><br />Everyone needs to relax a bit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-68158743317800421032013-08-21T12:30:26.642-07:002013-08-21T12:30:26.642-07:00William Lane Craig is dishonest and deliberately d...William Lane Craig is dishonest and deliberately deceives his audience. See my blog, <a href="http://religionvirus.blogspot.com/2011/02/dishonest-christian-william-lane-craig.html" rel="nofollow">Dishonest Christian: Dr. William Lane Craig Swindles Audiences</a> if you want to learn more.Craig A. Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10569974341270668010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-45442587740490185822013-08-20T22:05:34.521-07:002013-08-20T22:05:34.521-07:00Trying to explain the unknown is a waste of time. ...Trying to explain the unknown is a waste of time. Until man discovered the microscope, one wasn't aware of bacteria. Until man discovered and invented the electron microscope, we weren't fully aware of viruses. Who would of believe that invisible bugs are flying around and can take over your DNA or RNA can make its own DRN or RNA to replicate and take over your system and fool it to think that it is your own. Yes. This sounds crazy, but it is how some viruses work. We didn't know this until we invented the electron microscope. So, therefore.. before the invention it didn't exist. You can't describe color to a person, who never have seen color before, so why would those, who believe in God attempt to prove it to those, who don't believe? I never understood this. My main goal in life is not to try to prove something that is real to me, because if you don't have the tool or the experience, you are totally ignorant in the concept, spirit or thought, so why would I waste my time trying to have you conceptualize something when you are blind?baysidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03174622170954961104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-88374756608001257232013-08-20T06:02:58.507-07:002013-08-20T06:02:58.507-07:00Analysis??... Now I am Lost one... Analysis??... Now I am Lost one... Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05572977896097223599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-44125477781951718112013-08-20T00:48:31.442-07:002013-08-20T00:48:31.442-07:00I agree so much with you Graig. The thing is I ha...I agree so much with you Graig. The thing is I have faith but am not an adept of any religion. My faith is based on the Bible which you would (probably) hold as subject for critique first than as source of kind of information you were never thinking of searching for. And this very collection of books speak about religion negatively more than yourself. The fact is that you hold quite critical views on the same thing but your premise is 'no thing but just existence and currency'. This may lead to nothing... Well have a look at religion from Bible author's point of view and search what His thinking and personality is about.. This will definitely change you as person. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05572977896097223599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-47251742828152287412013-08-10T16:17:52.893-07:002013-08-10T16:17:52.893-07:00I find it strange that it hasn't been pointed ...I find it strange that it hasn't been pointed out yet that we can indeed see someone's brain, if we simply cut into the skull then it's visible. Also, making this point doesn't prove anything for the existence of a god. Just by saying "We can't see your brain, therefore it isn't there; therefore god is real" isn't concrete evidence. It's just a statement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-50286742514699336232013-07-28T23:18:47.186-07:002013-07-28T23:18:47.186-07:00sir Craig. A. James
You are such a learned man. Wh...sir Craig. A. James<br />You are such a learned man. Why don't you find out for " yourself " who the person Jesus is as said in the Bible? we will be very glad if you enlighten us with a deeper understanding of what Jesus is all about after your personal experiences in the days to come. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-90172038606016928782013-05-28T03:21:09.902-07:002013-05-28T03:21:09.902-07:00YAWN....YAWN....DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00126664439638464623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-79748099580338780432013-05-20T23:24:20.655-07:002013-05-20T23:24:20.655-07:00ur right :)ur right :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-8767417784856182972013-05-16T09:23:37.934-07:002013-05-16T09:23:37.934-07:00Todd... it is possible to be both, but being logic...Todd... it is possible to be both, but being logical and scientific about religion itself leads one to not believe in it anymore.Atheistxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04361853555816132812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-79417921533470082852013-05-16T09:22:21.684-07:002013-05-16T09:22:21.684-07:00What evidence do we need? How about good evidence ...What evidence do we need? How about good evidence to start?<br /><br />Good and evil, morality, and behaviors are all tied to our ancestral origins. There isn't a god necessary for us to have the same behaviors as others within our phyla.Atheistxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04361853555816132812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-75033979071772183272013-05-16T09:20:34.362-07:002013-05-16T09:20:34.362-07:00It is possible to be both an atheist and agnostic....It is possible to be both an atheist and agnostic. Einstein was likely both as spinoza's god is an atheistic concept. He invoked no deity and claimed no absolute knowledge making him agnostic as well. Atheistxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04361853555816132812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-82396722813828077652013-05-16T09:05:11.999-07:002013-05-16T09:05:11.999-07:00Actually evolution can be used to make many predic...Actually evolution can be used to make many predictions in retrospect. Such as why does a species exhibit a particular trait, or what was a the precursor to a particular feature. Not all hypotheses and predictions are about the future, sometimes they are about where we have already been, but have yet to discover.Atheistxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04361853555816132812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-52552582385772412842013-05-16T09:02:13.296-07:002013-05-16T09:02:13.296-07:00I believe it is bad for people to have faith in go...I believe it is bad for people to have faith in god, it gives false hope ( which can be done without attaching all of the falsehoods of god and religion to it). Is reality harder to deal with when you don't give people false hope? Sure. People that need false hope could be given it without so much false ideas and baggage.<br /><br />Give me the cold hard truth any day rather than warm comforting lies.Atheistxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04361853555816132812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-24744444197861456492013-05-16T08:59:46.849-07:002013-05-16T08:59:46.849-07:00Even if your god only created natural evils... Is ...Even if your god only created natural evils... Is that still not a dickish move? Your god creates suffering and strife through the very fabric of nature that it created. I would call that evil.<br /><br />Unless your god wasn't able to create without natural disasters/evil, then he isn't all powerful.Atheistxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04361853555816132812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-88420040575316022652013-05-16T08:54:20.894-07:002013-05-16T08:54:20.894-07:00Einstein believed in spinoza's god, an atheist...Einstein believed in spinoza's god, an atheistic concept... you guys could stand to learn a thing or two.Atheistxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04361853555816132812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3381224391260954323.post-45319727686556445462013-05-02T20:12:06.732-07:002013-05-02T20:12:06.732-07:00CRA...Love the plug for your book. Always about t...CRA...Love the plug for your book. Always about the sell isn't it. You romance atheism by saying "examine the world critically and decide based on evidence what is true and what is not." My question is, who's evidence? Religious people have their evidence. Atheist have their evidence. Which evidence do you have? When asked, what evidence do you present? To say that "many, (perhaps most)" is not accurate. How do you know? Have you talked to "many, (perhaps most)" Atheist and researched the way they "encourage their children"? How about the statement, "religious people almost never do the converse.". Again, how do you know this? These comments from you, in my opinion, was more about selling your "newest book" than providing factual information or constructive feedback.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com