Saturday, September 13, 2008

Sarah Palin: Pentacostal yet Supports Cruelty to Animals

I'm a pretty aloof, intellectual guy when I write these blogs, but tonight I was nearly in tears watching a horrifying video of Arctic wolves, writhing in agony after being shot in the gut from by a hunter in a helicopter. This horrifying cruelty is not only condoned by Sarah Palin, she worked hard to exploit and expand a loophole in the Federal Airborne Hunting Act so that more of this barbaric, inhumane, and immoral hunting could take place in Alaska.

Warning: This is not for the feint of heart. This video is real footage of wolves being hunted, shot, and dying a slow, agonizing, bloody and horrifying death. All civilized humans should be shocked by this practice. It doesn't take religion to see that this is inexcusable barbarism.

Take a look at your family dog. Go into the kitchen, grab a twelve-inch butcher knife, and stab your dog through the gut. Now get some really loud frightening machine and chase your family pet with it, out the door and down the street, away from his home and family, leaving a trail of blood. Watch it writhe in pain, as its guts are torn apart, fear and confusion in its eyes, until it finally, mercifully, dies from blood loss.

This is not some sick creation from a horror film. This is reality, people. This is what our Pentacostal candidate, Sarah Palin, stands for. Your dog is no different than the thousands upon thousands of wolves and bears that are shot for sport, with Sarah Palin's blessing and help, every year.

Humans are the most humane carnivores on the planet. Although our livestock industry is often criticized for overcrowded and unsanitary conditions, we do one thing right: We kill our animals instantly. Most prey animals suffer an agonizing death in the teeth and claws of their captors. Have you ever stepped on a nail? Gotten a twelve-inch slice with a razor? Had your skull crushed? Your neck broken? That's what carnivores do. By contrast, most livestock raised by humans is killed with little or no pain. Their tiny "souls" are just snuffed out in an instant, before the pain signals can even reach their brains.

There was a time when humans were just another carnivore, albeit one made more efficient by tools and weapons. But as we became civilized, the need to inflict tortuous pain on an animal so that we could eat became a thing of the past. We learned how to raise domestic animals, and how to slaughter them humanely, quickly and painlessly. We also made moral and ethical advances, and recognized that unnecessary suffering by our livestock was wrong. We have laws that are for the most part enforced, to that ensure humane killing methods are followed; when occasionally a slaughterhouse is found violating these laws, and making the animals suffer, there is widespread, justified outrage.



Yet, we still put up with hunting, and helicopter hunting is among the most brutal forms. A hunter on the ground can get a clear shot and a "clean" death, meaning the animal only suffers pain and agony for a short time. A helicopter hunter, in a moving platform, blasts away until he inflicts an agonizing, crippling injury on the animal, then the pilot chases the animal until its collapses from exhaustion, at which point the helicopter lands, and the hunter finally puts and end to the torture by shooting the animal at point-blank range.

It's disgusting. Why does it take an Atheist to point this out?

8 comments:

  1. long time hunter
    the last time i saw helicopter hunting it was in the thing by john carpenter i have never hunted from a helicopter
    my hunting was a way to get food i am poor and so is my family hunting licenses used to cost 5$ and were controlled with a limited amount released now hunting is a lottery in ND and the chances of getting a deer are 0 with a gun due two the short hunting season 2weeks the currant government in ND wants only the rich asshats who kill for sport to hunt i say FUCK THEM
    i hunted and fished when my family could not afford groceries
    we also canned our own garden
    we are lucky to have found good work to afford groceries
    but some aren't so lucky
    we need the hunt to be for people who cannot afford butcher meat
    and to the rich asshats who can afford a helicopter and to go hunting in Alaska in that helicopter and they do
    FUCK YOU sick basters

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  2. Craig,
    That video would like us to think that Palin drinks blood for fun and thinks torturing is awesome. It is so poorly flawed that I’m surprised that you couldn’t see through it. Don’t you claim intellectual superiority over religious people? We all have a virus, right? But you don’t.

    All civilized humans should be shocked by this practice. It doesn't take religion to see that this is inexcusable barbarism.

    Why don’t you take a look at these pictures? They are very graphic too:
    http://jfaweb.org/i2p4.pdf

    This is what I believe is inexcusable barbarism. In fact, those are far more graphic than those shown in the ad you mentioned. You tell me: which are worse? Which is more important? This is what your democrat candidate stands for. Get used to it if he’s elected.

    How many wolves are killed per year by this practice? How many babies are aborted each year?

    Your dog is no different than the thousands upon thousands of wolves and bears that are shot for sport, with Sarah Palin's blessing and help, every year.

    This statement is just begging to be rephrased: Your baby is no different than the thousands (actually just over a million) babies that are murdered because women chose to, with Barack Obama’s blessing and help, every year.

    Why does it take someone with a “religion virus” to point this out?

    Oh and while we’re at it, why is barbarism wrong? Why is torture wrong? Is it just because it’s wrong to hurt others? Again, why does that matter?

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  3. Ryan,

    > This statement is just begging to be
    > rephrased: Your baby is no different
    > than the thousands (actually just over
    > a million) babies that are murdered
    > because women chose to, with Barack
    > Obama’s blessing and help, every year.

    Let's see ... in one case, you have the termination of an unwanted pregnancy, of proto-human in most cases that doesn't even have a nervous system or brain stem, and certainly no consciousness or awareness. In the other case (wolves and bears), you have a fully-grown adult with a fully-developed brain and emotions, capable of feeling intense pain, sensing danger, and feeling fear and panic.

    That is, if you're a rational person who understands how the world really works. But maybe you're a person that believes in a magical god in the sky who magically thrusts a "soul" into an embryo at that instant when the sperm meets the egg. And maybe you further believe that in spite of all evidence to the contrary, this magical soul can feel pain the same way an adult can. And maybe you even believe that this magical soul, which still has no brain, can figure out it is in danger and feels the same panic and fear that an adult wolf does after being shot in the gut, and then chased by a helicopter.

    If you can swallow all that magical thinking and not blush from embarrassment, then I can understand why you'd compare abortion to the cruel murder of adult, sentient animals.

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  4. Let's see ... in one case, you have the termination of an unwanted pregnancy, of proto-human in most cases that doesn't even have a nervous system or brain stem, and certainly no consciousness or awareness.

    Did you look at the pictures in the link? Or do you prefer to call those pictures just pro-life “scare tactics”? Do you know for sure that it is proto-human? What does that even mean? They have a heartbeat at 3 weeks and brain waves at 6 weeks. This is going on before most women even know that they’re pregnant. You must also be clueless on partial-birth abortions which Obama supported.

    Dr. Hymie Gordon (Mayo Clinic): “By all criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception.”
    Dr. Micheline Matthews-Roth (Harvard University Medical School): “It is scientifically correct to say that an individual human life begins at conception.”
    Dr. Alfred Bongioanni (University of Pennsylvania): “I have learned from my earliest medical education that human life begins at the time of conception.”
    Dr. Jerome LeJeune, “the Father of Modern Genetics” (University of Descartes, Paris): “To accept the fact that after fertilization has taken place a new human has come into being is no longer a matter of taste or opinion . . . it is plain experimental evidence.”

    So there are actual scientists who completely disagree with you.

    Let me provide a few more links for you to digest:
    http://iwka.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/partial-birth_abortion.jpg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6vnOaq7nWU
    http://abort73.com/HTML/I-A-4-photos.html
    http://jfaweb.org/i1p2.pdf
    http://jfaweb.org/i1p3.pdf
    http://jfaweb.org/i1p5.pdf
    http://jfaweb.org/i2p2.pdf

    I’d urge you to take a look at them. They’re graphic but real. And then honestly tell me that this is far more important than animals getting shot.

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  5. That is, if you're a rational person who understands how the world really works. But maybe you're a person that believes in a magical god in the sky who magically thrusts a "soul" into an embryo at that instant when the sperm meets the egg.

    Of course. Atheists are so much smarter than everybody else. It couldn’t possibly be the case that you are irrational and don’t understand how the world works.

    And maybe you further believe that in spite of all evidence to the contrary, this magical soul can feel pain the same way an adult can.

    If it’s a human then it doesn’t matter if it feels pain or not. It simply should not be put to death. Do you agree?

    And maybe you even believe that this magical soul, which still has no brain,

    Of course, you’re dead wrong on that. Babies have brain waves at 6 weeks. Long before most abortions occur.

    If you can swallow all that magical thinking and not blush from embarrassment, then I can understand why you'd compare abortion to the cruel murder of adult, sentient animals.

    I’m not blushing. I’m angry that the self-proclaimed “rational, free-thinkers” are clueless about abortion and think that a wolf or bear (who would have no problem attacking other humans) is more important than the over a million babies who are aborted each year.

    So how many wolves and bears are killed each year because of helicopter hunting? And why is torture or anything like that wrong in the first place? Unfortunately, atheism has no answers for an objective morality and couldn’t even give a rational reason as to why we can trust what is happening in our minds right now. Please do tell, if you have an answer that is rational. Sorry to say, but you are the one who believes in a magical world. I’m sure you’re not blushing though.

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  6. Christian viewpoint or not, you can't have it both ways. Either you are pro life or not. I don't want to hear the "dominion over animals" reference here. We are charged to be stewards of the earth, not wanton destroyers.
    If you believe that an embryo or fetus is life, then that same respect should be given to anything that breathes. Life is life.
    You can't fight to save a fetus, and then back sport slaughter or a government who tortures and kills adult human beings. How does this stand up to logic on any level.
    I am not an atheist, but I can certainly see the absolute holes in the Christian arguments of pro-life.
    Once African Americans were considered animals, so their ownership and destruction was even OK'd by the Church.
    How wrong were we then and how wrong are we now, by setting ourselves above another living creature with any measure of superiority?

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  7. I like Susan's point very much. Although I think that Ryan was saying that MORE babies are killed than wolves via helicopter. This prompts the following questions:
    Are humans more important than animals?
    How many animals are killed inhumanly?
    Is the death experienced by a fetus inhumane?

    Certain religious views indicate that we have right to kill animals because we are more important. An atheist's view is that we have the right to survive however evolution allows us to (even if we are a simple parasite that kills its host or a carnivore that eats other animals.) Ryan makes the good point that many more babies are killed than wolves, but he doesn't address the two moral factors.

    How many animals are killed inhumanely (not just wolves) by "sport" hunting practice?

    Is the death experienced by the fetus inhumane?

    I cannot answer the first question, but I do think that there is hypocrisy in Palin's views/actions.

    I am sure that some abortions are inhumane and some are aborted before the fetus even has awareness/pain. But I have no idea what percentage of fetuses die quickly in a "humane" way. If your argument is that a human baby is more important than an animal then I cannot argue with you. But if you want to argue that one is more immoral or inhumane, you must consider the aforementioned questions.
    -Leo

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  8. No humans do NOT usually kill animals humanely. Animals are often still alive and aware when they move down the killing line, having legs hacked off, skinned alive, boiled alive (chickens).

    The whole meat industry is terribly cruel. You are lying to yourself if you think it is humane!

    Google factory farms, read up on how factory farmed animals live and die, they are not kept or killed humanely.

    Seriously if you love your dog so much, do some research into the horrors 'food' animals suffer and go vegan. All life is sacred, not just your dogs.

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