I'm sure your employer won't fire you. Offend shoppers? Piss off welfare recipients? Horrify the couple you're marrying? It's your right!Don't believe me? Just listen to this attorney about an identical case, defending her client:
"There are federal and state laws that protect against religious discrimination. It's not like he was out in the aisles preaching to people." – Kara Skorupa, attorney.But you know, I have a pretty good feeling Skorupa wouldn't take my case if I got fired for wearing a "God Sucks" button. Like many conservative religious people, Skorupa and her client,Trevor Keezor, probably think the law should protect Christians (I'm guessing he's a Christian) who violate their employers' policies, but if an atheist or Muslim did the same thing, I'd be willing to bet they'd sing a different song.
Keezor was fired for violating Home Depot's dress code, which prohibits any and all buttons and badges, except those issued by Home Depot. He took the job knowing full well what was expected of him, and Home Depot's dress code is 100% legal under the US Constitution, yet he thinks that he should be exempt, just because, "I support my country and God."
This is another great example of a "proselyzation meme," a technique that religions have developed down through the centuries as they evolved and mutated in the "survival of the fittest" battle we call cultural evolution, or memetics. Cultural evolution treats ideas as evolutionary raw material, and uses Darwinistic principles to predict how they'll reproduces, mutate and evolve.
It's a lot like sex, in fact, it's exactly parallel. In biological systems, each creature has to have a way of making copies of itself in order to carry on. Whether it's a bacterium splitting, or two whales mating, we all gotta do it! Otherwise our species goes extinct.
And the cool thing about sex is that we like it, because all of our ancestors, every single one of them, liked sex too. If even one of them didn't, well, we'd have never been born.
Religions are like that too. Any religion that doesn't have a way to spread itself, both across society and down through time, will quickly become extinct. More importantly, the religions that have the strongest proselytizing efforts (i.e. the memes that tell members to "spread God's word") are the ones that steal members from other churches and thereby gain memberships.
With sex, the ones who like it the most are the ones who have the most babies, and generation after generation, their descendants will inexorably grow at the expense of those who like sex less.
It's identical with churches. The ones with the strongest proselytizing memes are the ones that grow. Think about the Mormons, for example: They're the fastest growing church around. When was the last time a Catholic knocked on your door? The Catholic church is losing ground as a percentage of our population, and most other Christian churches are shrinking even faster than the Catholic Church.
So it's no surprise that most religions have a strong meme that says their members should actively spread God's word. And Mr. Keezor was just helping his Church with the memetic version of sex: spreading the memes, helping them reproduce, making sure that his particular branch of religion will survive in the endless Darwinian struggle of my-God-versus-yours.
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11 comments:
When you don't trust in God you become really rude and obnoxious, don't you? Your web site shows us how hateful people get when controlled by bad spirits.
(Bangs head against keyboard)
While I agree with you in general, there is a fair difference between saying "I support Atheism" and "Your God(s) suck". I would personally said if it's part of the dress code then neither should be displayed on those grounds and those alone. If for some reason this guy gets off easy then we should be fully free to wear pins that say "I support Atheism 100%", though.
Anon - Rude? If you want to know what rude is, try being a non-Christian, and see how Christains treat YOU in this country. Did you read my Atheists - Get Out of the Damned Closet blog? Check out the responses, it's the Christians in this country who are rude.
You mistake parody for rudeness. I would NEVER advocate ANYONE wearing a "God Sucks" button to work. Nor should anyone wear a "God is Great" or "In God we Trust" button, unless their employer permits it. I was making a joke. Get a sense of humor, life will be more fun!
Locri - Thanks for the comments. I pretty much agree with you ... see my previous reply to Anon above. It's never OK to insult anyone or their beliefs. My "God Sucks" buttons were just a literary illustration, a way to show what the legal outcome will be if the attorney and her client win their case. Which means, as you point out, that if they DO win, maybe we will have to wear those buttons just to get the point across!
If people really want to promote tolerance then they should accept that we should be tolerant of criticisms as well.
Locri commented: "If for some reason this guy gets off easy then we should be fully free to wear pins that say "I support Atheism 100%", though."
I don't see any difference between christians wearing "God is Great" buttons and atheists wearing "god sucks" buttons. They are both equally offensive!
Both groups should legally be allowed to openly criticize the other. Both should be forced to stand on their own merits in the public arena.
I like Craig's comments. It's seems I'm not the only one with fiery remarks toward religious BS!
Here's what people (including the lawyer) don't understand:
It has absolutely nothing to do with the content of the button.
The button could have been blank, for all it matters. All that matters is that the button was not issued by Home Depot and was therefore in contravention of the employee dress code.
If some religious symbols, but not others, were allowed, then he would have a case for a religious discrimination claim. But that's simply not what happened.
(PS: I seem to remember the same thing happening with Disney. Since Disney considers all theme park employees to be in "costumes", not "uniforms", they have among the tightest dress codes in the country. And they don't exempt religious symbols either.)
Anon- Do you honestly think we are controlled by "bad spirits" because we don't "trust in God"? First, we can't trust, nor be controlled by, something that isn't real. Second, I control my life, as do all other Atheists. We stand on our own merit. And as for accepting criticism, we are very used to it, and use it to prove our points. And we do it without spirits, gods, and blind faith.
God is a pig.
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